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    Re: Thoughts on 416-8B,601-8D, 2404H build

    Impressive extension for a 12", though meant tweeter horn measurements, but just remembered the original Duplex design article that tells all.

    So if Werner can duplicate the autoformer N3000, then it should in theory protect the driver at modest levels, but any lower will depend on the speaker's eff. + how dynamic* your best recordings are and how loud the highest average listening level.

    * this is the gotcha! It appears to be designed for +12 dB dynamic headroom Vs my best recordings having up to +30 dB = 10^(30/10) = 1 kW minus in room eff. just to handle 'fast' transients with most modern recordings 'supposedly' conforming to the HT's +20 dB = 10^(20/10) = 100 W
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    Re: Thoughts on 416-8B,601-8D, 2404H build

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    though meant tweeter horn measurements,
    I don't understand this comment. The tweeters are in the images.


    Most of what I listen to is of CD quality or better on a DAC. Some albums and reel to reel as well. I have low power tube amps. Although the tweeters are said to be fragile, I remember reading that one guy had them in his nightclub for years under serious duty without issue. I certaintly won't crank these real hard. Thank you

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    Re: Thoughts on 416-8B,601-8D, 2404H build

    Quote Originally Posted by ckp View Post
    I don't understand this comment. The tweeters are in the images.


    Most of what I listen to is of CD quality or better on a DAC. Some albums and reel to reel as well. I have low power tube amps. Although the tweeters are said to be fragile, I remember reading that one guy had them in his nightclub for years under serious duty without issue. I certaintly won't crank these real hard. Thank you
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    Re: Thoughts on 416-8B,601-8D, 2404H build

    Picked up these little guys over the weekend. They are loaded with 601Cs. I guess I'll be using the 601Ds for the woofers. One way to preserve the tweeters. lol

    54124823533 50caf68682 zthumbnail_IMG_4600 by ckp37, on Flickr


    Last edited by ckp; November 8th, 2024 at 12:52 AM. Reason: trying to post image

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    Re: Thoughts on 416-8B,601-8D, 2404H build

    I took apart one of my 3000E crossovers. Can't post a picture to save my life. From the computer they are too big and from onedrive it comes up with some gibberish. The pink object in the image is the back of the attenuator.

    13000Ejpg. by ckp37, on Flickr

    edit: I guess that 4uF capacitor isn't helping the tweeters longevity.
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    Re: Thoughts on 416-8B,601-8D, 2404H build

    Thanks! Pink image? All I see is a wiring diagram. Need to get it added to Dropbox.
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    Re: Thoughts on 416-8B,601-8D, 2404H build

    Much easier right ?

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    Much easier right ?
    Indeed

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